Breaking Down Every Song Of The Year Nominee At The 2022 Latin GRAMMYs: Listen
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Breaking Down Every Song Of The Year Nominee At The 2022 Latin GRAMMYs: Listen

As 2022 Latin GRAMMYs excitement kicks into high gear, revisit the 12 nominees for Song Of The Year.

GRAMMYs/Nov 17, 2022 - 07:25 pm

The below article is an excerpt from the 2022 Latin GRAMMYs program book, which you can read in full here.

Some of the biggest names in Latin music have also given us some of the biggest songs of the year — and many of them are being honored at the 2022 Latin GRAMMYs in the coveted Song Of The Year category.

Can't remember which songs those are? Never fear, has a full rundown of all 12 tracks ahead of the Nov. 17 broadcast.

Below, find out more about the Song Of The Year nominees and take a listen to each of them. Then, be sure to tune into the 23rd Latin GRAMMY Awards on Univision at 8 p.m. ET/PT (7 p.m. CT) to see which song wins!

The 2022 Latin GRAMMYs will also air on cable channel TNT at 19.00 (MEX) / 20.00 (PAN-COL) / 21.00 (VEN) / 22.00 (ARG/CHI/BRAZIL), and on Televisa Channel 5. The show will also be available on HBO Max in Spanish only.

"A Veces Bien Y A Veces Mal"

Pedro Capó, Ignacio Cibrián, Ricky Martin, Pablo Preciado, Julio Ramírez, Mauricio Rengifo & Andrés Torres, songwriters (Ricky Martin featuring Reik)

"A Veces Bien Y A Veces Mal" is a power ballad between Latin GRAMMY-winning powerhouses: Puerto Rican superstar Ricky Martin and Mexican trio Reik. It's the final track on Martin's 2022 EP PLAY, and the first time he has worked with Reik. On the emotive down-tempo song, Martin and Reik frontman Jesús Navarro sing of a lover they haven't talked to in 10 days, letting them know that sometimes they're good, sometimes they're bad. The song gave the pop star his first U.S. Latin Pop Airplay No. 1 hit in six years. Martin reminds us he's still capable of piercing our corazones with his rich voice. — Ana Monroy Yglesias


Rauw Alejandro, Emmanuel Anene, Daddy Yankee, David Alberto Macías, Nile Rodgers, Juan Salinas & Oscar Salinas, songwriters (Daddy Yankee, Rauw Alejandro & Nile Rodgers)

After globalizing the sound of reggaeton music nearly two decades ago, Daddy Yankee has decided to gracefully bow out and retire with a final album in 2022. On the album's standout cut, the alluring "Agua," he looks to the future of the genre. The reggaeton pioneer teams up with Puerto Rican superstar Rauw Alejandro while bringing in an unexpected collaborator, Chic legend Nile Rodgers. Daddy Yankee and Alejandro take turns sweetly serenading their lovers while showering them with slick rhymes. "You're like water, transparent/But what you have behind and in front isn't invisible," Daddy Yankee sings. Their hydrated wordplay with a naughty flow is accentuated by Rodgers' electric guitar. "Agua" is a refreshing musical detour for Daddy Yankee. — Lucas Villa

"Algo Es Mejor"

Mon Laferte, songwriter (Mon Laferte)

In 2021, Chilean singer/songwriter Mon Laferte moved to Los Angeles to begin fertility treatment. Seis was awaiting a release date, and a new album didn't even register as a thought. That all changed after a drive along the Southern California coastline inspired the chameleonic Latin GRAMMY-winning songstress to write "Algo es mejor." "I came to Los Angeles hoping to get pregnant, and I left with a baby and an album," she told Rolling Steeped in optimism, the track evokes the unbridled freedom of the open road. The airy syncopation of acoustic guitars punctuated by retro surf-guitar underscores the song's breezy, mid-tempo delivery and throwback vibes, while lyrics such as "Dance at the wheel/Dance/Dance, I'll follow you wherever you go" promise possibilities beyond the horizon. — Lissette Corsa

"Baloncito Viejo"

Camilo, Jorge Luis Chacín, Andrés Leal, Martín Velilla & Carlos Vives, songwriters (Carlos Vives & Camilo)

Two of Colombia's greats come together to bring us this melodious and modern folk song riding on a vallenato accordion.

With tender diminutives and good vibe, the celebrated voices of Carlos Vives and Camilo narrate the storyline: Men who, at the feet of their loved ones, beg for honesty from them when it comes to love. This piece employs soccer as the metaphor for the game of love, and they warn their beauties to play fair. The chorus then explains the men's fear of being discarded like an old ball, a "baloncito viejo." With 18 Latin GRAMMYs between them and the sum of all that talent, the duo offers this danceable and delicious song, and while they're at it, they display their roots with contrasting but compatible styles. — Ana Santiago

"Besos en la Frente"

Fonseca & Julio Reyes Copello, songwriters (Fonseca)

Fonseca's "Besos En La Frente" is an intensely personal work yet it conveys a universality in coping with tragedy with which almost anyone can empathize. This heartful ballad isn't a typical single for the venerable Colombian singer/songwriter and it contains the elegance that one would expect from a seasoned professional. With its grounded melody and instrumentation, it's a testament to the songwriting that the track doesn't fall into cliches or clumsy poetry, instead choosing simple and direct phrases to share its universal pathos. While it's more likely to tear you apart than bring the house down, "Besos En La Frente" is one of the more unique entries in Fonseca's 20-year career as a hitmaker. — Andrew Casillas


Carla Morrison, Juan Alejandro Jiménez Pérez & Mario Demian Jiménez Pérez, songwriters (Carla Morrison)

The past five years marked a necessary interlude of searching, introspection and reflection for Mexican singer/ songwriter Carla Morrison. Part of that process led the Baja Californian to Paris, where she began to rediscover herself ... and to heal. From that time of change comes "Encontrarme", a sweet, piano-backed hymn to life that is an example of reinvigorated music. "I want to go back to me/The person I was/Find myself again," she sings on the track, which is part of her most recent album, El Renacimiento. That renaissance implies returning to her career with a new outlook, allowing herself to add pop touches to her acoustic style, expand her vocal skills and, above all, find herself. — Juan Carlos Pérez-Duthie


Larry Gold, Noah Goldstein, Chad Hugo, David Rodríguez, Rosalía, Jacob Sherman, Michael Uzowuru, Pilar Vila Tobella, Dylan Wiggins & Pharrell Williams, songwriters (Rosalía)

Smudging the line between risqué and raunchy in a way only irreverent Spanish superstar Rosalía can, "HENTAI," named after a triple-X manga, pays homage to female sexuality. "HENTAI" draws from numerous songwriting collaborators to craft a piano-driven ballad that builds on erotic tensions and dualities oscillating between vulnerable and empowering. Rosalía's seductively coy, smoldering vocals contrast with jarring electronic accouterments, such as machine gun shots, while a pulsating beat and lush strings create a theatrical ambiance. Love, lust and opulence intermingle as Rosalía coos about the object of her desire, her lover's "pistol," and likens its value to that of a diamond. — Lissette Corsa


Édgar Barrera & Camilo, songwriters (Camilo & Evaluna Montaner)

Latin GRAMMY-winning Colombian hitmaker Camilo reflects life's milestones in his music. On "Vida De Rico," he declared his everlasting love for wife Evaluna Montaner while documenting their home remodel on video. They announced their pregnancy to the world in a tender duet titled "Índigo," named after their firstborn. The accompanying video juxtaposes home footage of celebrating the news against shots of them frolicking in an open field. Buoyed by rollicking rhythms, they hew a mellifluous melody in harmonization and vocal interplay, while lyrics brimming with notions of ideal love, co-written by Édgar Barrera, Camilo's frequent partner, spell out the couple's goals: "How is it that you dream of someone you haven't even met." Once again, Camilo melds the personal and the universal in an intimate space where his life, music and fandom seem to effortlessly orbit each other. — Lissette Corsa

"Pa Mis Muchachas"

Christina Aguilera, Becky G, Jorge Luis Chacín, Kat Dahlia, Yoel Henríquez, Yasmil Marrufo, Nicki Nicole & Nathy Peluso, songwriters (Christina Aguilera, Nicki Nicole, Becky G featuring Nathy Peluso)

A masterclass on female empowerment, "Pa' Mis Muchachas" recognizes oomph. Ultimately, it's a celebration of Latina resilience, and Christina Aguilera is our mesmerizing ringleader dressed in shiny black leather. She embraces the next generation of Latina singers: "I'm not just a pretty face/I have strength, fire and dynamite," sings Chicana chanteuse Becky G in Spanish against a guaracha-trap backdrop. Meanwhile, femme fatale Nathy Peluso spellbinds with perilous wordplay, and Argentine rapper Nicki Nicole brings her chill braggadocio to the table. Buoyed by sass, sensuality and eye-popping provocation, Aguilera just may have recaptured the rousing yet riveting girl power of "Lady Marmalade" 20 years later. — Isabela Raygoza


Kevyn Mauricio Cruz Moreno, Karol G & Ovy On The Drums, songwriters (Karol G)

"PROVENZA," a breezy summer bop about craving another romp with an ex from Karol G from her upcoming fourth album Carolina, is the result of a winning team. The star, born Carolina Giraldo Navarro, wrote it with regular collaborator and fellow Colombian powerhouse Ovy On The Drums, along with Kevyn Mauricio Cruz Moreno. The Colombian trio also worked on another of the reggaetonera's hits, "Tusa." "PROVENZA" is driven by an Afro-house-style beat produced by Ovy and showcases Navarro's malleability and skill as vocalist and songwriter. Altogether, the 2018 Best New Artist winner earned three nominations this year. As Navarro seduces a former love, we fall in love with her for the millionth time, ever captivated by her confident, playful and evolving songs. — Ana Monroy Yglesias

"Tacones Rojos"

Juan Jo, Manuel Lara, Manuel Lorente, Pablo & Sebastián Yatra, songwriters (Sebastián Yatra)

Sebastián Yatra is one of the most charismatic Latinx pop stars of this era, and perhaps no track exemplifies this better than "Tacones Rojos." Infectious from the first guitar chord, it's the rare pop song that's as likely to be heard at the club as it is at a backyard barbecue. There are no deep insights or hidden meanings behind "Tacones Rojos," and it doesn't need any. It glides on Yatra's energy, fully reveling in its playfulness. After all, how many love songs proudly boast "I only came in to get drunk/I didn't expect to fall in love with you"? It's that confidence that makes the song work, and the result is a slice of pop ecstasy. — Andrew Casillas


Jorge Drexler, Pablo Drexler, Víctor Martínez & C. Tangana, songwriters (Jorge Drexler & C. Tangana)

Jorge Drexler and C. Tangana make this song whisper in your ear and bounce off the walls at the same time. Street hot but intimate, minimalist and full of lust, this piece grabs you, and the authors remind us that after months of social distancing due to the global pandemic, we are willing to risk it all for that very human need: "Tocarte" (touching you). C. Tangana explains that during the quarantine, everyday actions like hugging and kissing "suddenly became risky acts," and the artistic result is this song. The chosen vocabulary is audacious and sensual, wrapped in a derived candombe and carioca funk sound. It is sexy to the beat of a carnival. It is shared anxiety taken to the limits of desire. — Ana Santiago

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5 Essential Bizarrap Sessions: BZRP Music Videos With Shakira, Arcángel, Nathy Peluso & More
Bizarrap, left, with Peso Pluma

Photo: Pipe Ordoñez


5 Essential Bizarrap Sessions: BZRP Music Videos With Shakira, Arcángel, Nathy Peluso & More

BZRP Music Sessions are anticipated on a global scale, dropping unexpectedly every few months. After listening to Bizarrap's most recent session, a música mexicana track with Peso Pluma, read on for five of his most exciting releases.

GRAMMYs/Jun 2, 2023 - 02:55 pm

From a home studio in the suburbs of Buenos Aires, a young Argentine producer nicknamed Bizarrap has spent the past couple of years transforming the landscape of Latin music. Biza not only innovates the sound itself with a playful combination of trap, EDM and cinematic moods, but also the way songs are presented, consumed and dissected among his millions of social media fans.

His BZRP Music Sessions on YouTube drop unexpectedly every couple of months (he began the series in 2019, and is currently on No. 55) are followed and anticipated on a global scale. Each session features a new guest on vocals — most of them rappers. Biza provides the backing track, and the guest does the rest. The videos follow the same setup: a Spartan home studio, with Biza in the producer’s chair, arms flailing, while the guests stand in front of the mic, looking directly into the cameras documenting the performance. The visual aspect is so closely associated with Bizarrap’s mystique, that the set has been duplicated in every minute detail whenever the sessions take place outside Argentina.

Gonzalo Julián Conde will be 25 in August, and Time magazine recently selected him as one of its Next Generation Leaders. He continues to stir things up on the recently dropped session No. 55: his first foray outside the urbano genre, a música mexicana track with emerging star Peso Pluma

Here are five key sessions from the past four years that sum up the Bizarrap phenomenon. 

Session No. 36: Nathy Peluso (2020)

The first session to generate more than 300 million YouTube views, Bizarrap’s collaboration with fellow Argentine Nathy Peluso found the producer face to face with an artist as formidable as she is multi-faceted. Based in Spain, Peluso began her career as a rapper and evolved into an eclectic singer/songwriter who can ignite the dance floor with her authentic salsa jams, then move you to the core with an organic ballad about missing Buenos Aires. 

Peluso’s hip-hop roots are deep, and this session brims with her demented sense of humor, the use of syllables as a powerful rhythmic device, and her subtly menacing, rapper fatale persona. Biza spices up the track with hypnotic electro beats, then autotunes the chorus to brilliant effect. 

Session No. 53: Shakira (2023)

In strict musical terms, Biza’s tandem with Colombian diva Shakira treads similar ground than some of his previous sessions. But this is much more than just a song. A vitriolic revenge fest against Shakira’s former husband — soccer star Gerard Piqué — the track reveals the singer as a vulnerable, yet empowered human being. It connected with the zeitgeist of 2023 and became a cultural phenomenon. 

Followers of Shakira’s personal life have savored the many subtle and not-so-subtle digs and references, some of which are notoriously mordant (the way in which she sings "clara-mente" in reference to Clara, Piqué’s current girlfriend, is delightful).

Session No. 51: Villano Antillano (2022)

In interviews, Bizarrap has affirmed his intention to never censor guests in any way — they can do and say whatever they please. Inviting transfeminist Puerto Rican rapper Villano Antillano was a nod to inclusivity, and gave Villano a much deserved global platform for her dazzling skills. 

Her rhymes are brilliant, quoting Rihanna, literary vampires, the cast of Friends and Chilean poet Gabriela Mistral. Biza is in high form, peppering the backing track with flashy touches of EDM and screeching the beat to a halt in the bridge. Don’t miss the colorful portable fan that appears in Villano’s right hand at the 2:11 mark — her playful smile and eye batting are priceless.

Session No. 54: Arcángel (2023)

Strangely enough, Biza’s collaboration with iconic rapper Arcángel boasts a relatively anemic (for Biza, anyway) 75 million views. A pity, because it’s one of the wittiest Latin tracks of the decade. 

The pair had already collaborated with Argentine trapero Duki on "Bottas," a vertigo-inducing track off Arcángel’s 2022 album Sr. Santos. The rapper makes a hilarious reference to that previous outing, and imitates Biza’s South American accent. The rhymes are inventive throughout, with nods to pot, Argentine soccer players, Roman gladiators and something about straightening out the Tower of Pisa. 

Biza’s ominous, sustained synth notes complement the MC’s high-pitched flow, and Arcángel hams it up for the camera.

Session No. 39: Snow Tha Product (2021)

If there’s one session that showcases Biza’s framework as a space where artists can let their virtuoso tendencies soar, this is it. Born in San Jose, California, Mexican American rapper Snow Tha Product was already known in the Latin hip-hop community for her formidable flow. Biza’s session allowed her to elevate her skills to an almost surreal level. 

Everything here is calibrated to perfection, from Snow’s speed, Spanglish rimas and stage presence to the producer’s raw bass lines and EDM climax. Following the track’s viral success — 220 million views and counting — the rapper posted a pinned message on Biza’s YouTube page expressing her amazement and gratitude.

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Listen To's LGBTQIA+ Pride Month 2023 Playlist Featuring Demi Lovato, Sam Smith, Kim Petras, Frank Ocean, Omar Apollo & More
(L-R, clockwise): Hayley Kiyoko, Ricky Martin, Brandi Carlile, Sam Smith, Kim Petras, Orville Peck, Omar Apollo

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Listen To's LGBTQIA+ Pride Month 2023 Playlist Featuring Demi Lovato, Sam Smith, Kim Petras, Frank Ocean, Omar Apollo & More

Celebrate LGBTQIA+ Pride Month 2023 with a 50-song playlist that spans genres and generations, honoring trailblazing artists and allies including George Michael, Miley Cyrus, Orville Peck, Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande and many more.

GRAMMYs/Jun 1, 2023 - 04:21 pm

In the past year, artists in the LGBTQIA+ community have continued to create change and make history — specifically, GRAMMY history. Last November, Liniker became the first trans artist to win a Latin GRAMMY Award when she took home Best MPB Album for Indigo Borboleta Anil; three months later, Sam Smith and Kim Petras became the first nonbinary and trans artists, respectively, to win the GRAMMY Award for Best Pop Duo/Group Performance for their sinful collab "Unholy."

Just those two feats alone prove that the LGBTQIA+ community is making more and more of an impact every year. So this Pride Month, celebrates those strides with a playlist of hits and timeless classics that are driving conversations around equality and fairness for the LGBTQIA+ community.

Below, take a listen to 50 songs by artists across the LGBTQIA+ spectrum — including "Unholy" and Liniker's "Baby 95" — on Amazon Music, Spotify, Apple Music, and Pandora.

Hype Up For Lovers & Friends Festival With This Nostalgic Playlist: Bangers From Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, Usher And More
Usher performs at Lovers & Friends Festival 2022.

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Hype Up For Lovers & Friends Festival With This Nostalgic Playlist: Bangers From Mariah Carey, 50 Cent, Usher And More

The second annual Lovers & Friends festival in Las Vegas will see some of the biggest R&B and rap legends take the stage on May 6. Whether or not you'll be there, bump this 50-song playlist — and try not to jam.

GRAMMYs/May 4, 2023 - 06:56 pm

As Jagged Edge and Nelly asked in 2001, where the party at? On May 6, it's at the Las Vegas Festival Grounds thanks to Lovers & Friends.

The star-studded festival largely celebrates the R&B and hip-hop stars of the '90s and 2000s, with a lineup that boasts Missy Elliott, Mariah Carey, Boyz II Men, Usher, Christina Aguilera, Nelly, and 50 Cent, among countless other hitmakers. With a jam-packed roster, it's hard to believe the fest is only one day. But one thing is guaranteed: it's going to be a day full of bangers.

There's also a good chance that there will be some viral moments from the second annual Lovers & Friends fest. Several of the stars on the bill have delivered some smash hits together, and they may just take the stage together to perform them — whether it's Chris Brown and Busta Rhymes for "Look At Me Now," Frankie J and Baby Bash for "Suga Suga," or, yes, even Jagged Edge and Nelly for "Where The Party At."

Even if you didn't get a ticket to this year's sold-out fest, that certainly doesn't mean you can't get in on the nostalgia. has curated a 50-song playlist to highlight all 50 performers on the Lovers & Friends 2023 lineup (which also includes current stars like Summer Walker, Bryson Tiller and Partynextdoor), and it will undoubtedly get you pumped up.

Below, jam out to's Lovers & Friends 2023 playlist, or listen to it on Apple Music, Amazon Music or Pandora.

Meet LE SSERAFIM, The K-Pop Group Nile Rodgers Chose For His First Foray Into The Genre

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Meet LE SSERAFIM, The K-Pop Group Nile Rodgers Chose For His First Foray Into The Genre

In an exclusive joint interview, LE SSERAFIM and legendary musician Nile Rodgers — who is featured on their debut record, 'Unforgiven' — discuss the importance of being unconventional, and why K-pop is so exciting to Western audiences.

GRAMMYs/May 2, 2023 - 01:30 pm

What Nile Rodgers loves the most about K-pop is that it is fearless. The revered producer, guitarist, and four-time GRAMMY winner (as well as Lifetime Achievement Award recipient) spares no words on how invigorating the South Korean industry is. "For a musician like myself, it’s exciting to have that kind of challenge," he says over a Zoom from his studio, whose walls are covered in gold, platinum and diamond albums.

Rodgers’ work has soundtracked our lives more than we know. In 1977, he co-founded the disco vanguard band Chic, which then spawned samples for the Sugarhill Gang's "Rapper's Delight," Queen's "Another One Bites the Dust," and Daft Punk’s "Around the World." He collaborated with Diana Ross, David Bowie, Beyoncé and many others, and produced era-defining albums such as Madonna’s Like a Virgin and Duran Duran’s Notorious

Now, he’s ready to make his debut into the K-pop realm alongside girl group LE SSERAFIM. Rodgers is featured on "Unforgiven," the title track from LE SSERAFIM's debut studio album. The track also samples Ennio Morricone’s theme song from the 1966 spaghetti Western film The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, and the music video, recorded in Thailand, sees them boldly take the town in cowgirl outfits — a celebration of all the "unforgiven girls" and "unforgiven boys" in the lyrics.

Rodgers couldn’t have chosen a better act for his first K-pop feature. LE SSERAFIM takes their name out of an anagram for "I’m fearless." In May 2022, the quintet became the first girl group launched by Source Music under HYBE — the same label of K-pop icons BTS and SEVENTEEN — with the fittingly-titled EP Fearless. Aiming to spread self-confident messages, LE SSERAFIM established themselves as unflinching, dare-devilish stars.

Throughout Unforgiven’s 13 tracks, LE SSERAFIM are boldly themselves, regardless of what others think. Whether they are the unforgiven villains of the title track, "a mess in distress" in "Eve, Psyche & The Bluebeard’s wife," or demonstrate vulnerably on "FEARNOT (Between you, me and the lamppost)," LE SSERAFIM live by their truth. And what’s more fearless than that? caught up with Nile Rodgers and LE SSERAFIM's Sakura, Kim Chaewon, Huh Yunjin, Kazuha, and Hong Eunchae for an exclusive conversation about Western and Eastern collaborations, what makes K-pop so exciting, and what they learned from each other.

Nile, you have collaborated with many legendary artists throughout the decades. What made you choose LE SSERAFIM to be your first K-pop collaboration?

Nile Rodgers: Why? Because when I heard the song, I loved it.

LE SSERAFIM [in unison]: Thank you!

LE SSERAFIM, did you know about Nile’s work before? What was your reaction when you learned that he was featuring on "Unforgiven?"

Yunjin: Well, I grew up in the States, so of course I knew. We were all so shocked to know that such a legend would work with us. It hasn't even been a year since we debuted, we were so honored and so excited.

Sakura: It was a really, really huge honor, and I still cannot believe that it happened. When Nile first played the guitar for us, I was completely blown away. I was like, "Is this going to be in our song?" I couldn't believe it. I was really proud.

Yunjin: I remember when I first told my parents, they were like, "No way! You? You and Nile Rodgers?" [Laughs.]

Nile, what are your impressions about K-pop in general? How do you see its growth in America and across the world?

Rodgers: This may sound nerdy, but I love the fact that it seems like a lot of the K-pop that I'm hearing lately, the new music, [has] the harmonic changes. The chord changes are a lot more interesting than what's been happening [in other music fields] over the last few years.

And that's made me excited, because I come from a jazz background, so to hear chord changes like that is really cool. They’re not afraid, which is great to me.

LE SSERAFIM, as a K-pop group, why do you think that it's important to collaborate with Western artists like Nile Rodgers? Is making your music more global something that you strive for to reach more people?

Yunjin: As time goes by, on the contrary, I think it's harder to find boundaries. Music is a universal language, and I think it's very good and very honorable to have Western and Eastern artists collaborating from wherever they are. It's just so that more people can enjoy good music. Isn't that the only reason? Like, music is good, and so more people should listen to it.

Rodgers: And I agree.

How has this collaboration inspired you further? Is there anything you learned from working together that you want to apply to your future work?

Rodgers: I was thinking I should have worn a cowboy hat today. [Laughs.]

Kazuha: When we first met online, Nile played [the guitar] according to our song, and it was completely freestyle. It wasn't something like "Oh, I'm gonna sit down and play music," it was just completely freestyle. I thought it was really cool and fascinating for a new work of art to be formed just by going with the flow and feeling the vibe. I thought it would be nice to [have] that process for us too, as true artists and for [creating] similar works of art as well.

Since Nile mentioned the cowboy hat, "Unforgiven" samples The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly soundtrack, which is a surprising novelty. What do you think about the fact that you are actually merging the past with the present, and bridging decades of culture in one song?

Sakura: I just learned that there are no set rules in music, we just do it.

Rodgers: I once attended a concert with maestro Ennio Morricone, who wrote the music for The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. He had me sit right behind him while he conducted. It was fantastic.

Yunjin: Wow, so it must have been very weird to hear that in a K-pop song?

Rodgers: It's cool. See, that's the thing I like. K-pop music is stretching the boundaries. I was talking to my engineer today, and we were listening to, not just the rest of [LE SSERAFIM’s] album, but other people who are sending me music or would like me to play with them. And I was noticing that, as I said earlier, harmonically, it's a lot more interesting than what's been happening in the last maybe 10 years, where it's been almost the same four chords over and over and over again, just different melodies.

Nile, you've heard the rest of Unforgiven. LE SSERAFIM’s album. What was the main takeaway that you got from it? 

Rodgers: I actually think that it's really cool. I think it's progressive. It's fun. It's exciting. I hope that what I feel is what the rest of the world feels — I loved it. There’s a lot of good writers and producers. It's really great.

LE SSERAFIM [in unison]: Aw, thank you so much!

The title Unforgiven is based on the idea that you don’t need excuses to be who you are. Is there anything specific that you learned about yourselves while working with this concept?

Yunjin: Through every album, we grow with it and then we are able to personify [it]. I think the main message that we want to convey has actually become our story. No matter what people say — even if they might judge us, or misperceive us, or point fingers at us —  regardless of what people think, we might become the villain in other people's eyes. But just like how our music is crossing lines and stretching out the boundaries, we want to become a team that can continue doing that.

Rodgers: I think what you're saying is exactly right. If you have a message and a concept, never worry about some people not liking it, because there's no way that everybody can like everything. 

I mean, even the five of you probably don't like all the exact same food at the exact same moment, but it's okay. Sometimes people don't understand it right away and they get it later on, and that's cool too. Art is personal.

Were there any challenges working together, or any obstacles that you had to overcome while recording?

Rodgers: Well, I was In America, unfortunately, and they were in Korea. You can see that we can work like this, we can work remotely, but it would probably be fun to be in the same room.

Chaewon: Sure, sure, hopefully.

LE SSERAFIM was the first girl group launched by Source Music under HYBE, and now you're part of such a strong new generation of girl groups who also debuted in the past few years. What are some of your thoughts about being part of this new wave?

Eunchae: I think it is really nice to be active in a time where so many great girl groups are getting a lot of attention. A lot of people are listening to their music, and while we are also promoting with other groups, we're getting a lot of motivation and positive influences. I'm really satisfied and happy with that.

There’s plenty of musical styles that you approach on Unforgiven — Latin rhythms, Jersey Club beats, and even some country rock. What are some of your favorite experimentations or favorite moments to work on in the album?

Chaewon: "Unforgiven!"

Yunjin: I think the fact that Nile is in our album is just… You just can't not have "Unforgiven" as a favorite. I think all of us have "Unforgiven" as our top two. It's my personal favorite title track that we have ever done.

Sakura, Kazuha and Eunchae: Yes, "Unforgiven"!

Rodgers: I didn't pay them to say that. [Laughs.]

Nile, do you have any other favorites in the album, besides "Unforgiven"?

Rodgers: I actually liked the whole album. That's why, when we first started talking, I really was impressed with the fact that it's not conventional. It's not exactly what you would think. As a musician, it's great to listen to, to have different styles of music, and all of the styles that they pursue sound sincere.

If you could collaborate together again, what kind of music would you want to make?

Chaewon: Wow, that’s hard. I think if we can collaborate together again, anything would be fine.

Yunjin: We will try our best at everything.

Rodgers: I have a feeling in my heart that we will collaborate again.

[LE SSERAFIM cheer and send heart hands and thumbs ups to Nile.]

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